i never was a jw.. wtbts and its hydra-headed organisations world wide has charitable status.
yet, as far as i can see, it carries out little or no real charitable works.. last weekend my son and his friends did a 420 km cycle ride and mountain walk in aid of a local hospice at home charity.
they've raised (so far) 5,000. this charity makes a real difference.. this a video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ijr7ipvrek&feature=youtu.be.
Thanks.
This was a happy weekend, although all involved were completely knackered. (I am the smiling guy with the take-away coffee!).
What struck me was that these are ordinary ('wordly') people, doing something for other people.
The WT people - who have no idea - just can't touch this in terms of 'charitable' work. And they deserve (IMHO) to be condemned for this.
i never was a jw.. wtbts and its hydra-headed organisations world wide has charitable status.
yet, as far as i can see, it carries out little or no real charitable works.. last weekend my son and his friends did a 420 km cycle ride and mountain walk in aid of a local hospice at home charity.
they've raised (so far) 5,000. this charity makes a real difference.. this a video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ijr7ipvrek&feature=youtu.be.
I never was a JW.
WTBTS and its hydra-headed organisations world wide has charitable status. Yet, as far as I can see, it carries out little or no real charitable works.
Last weekend my son and his friends did a 420 km cycle ride and mountain walk in aid of a local hospice at home charity. They've raised (so far) £5,000. This charity makes a real difference.
This a video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IjR7IPVRek&feature=youtu.be
Of course, I am inordinately proud of my son and these guys. But these are ordinary guys, motivated by nothing more than 'ordinary' humanity.
What a contrast - and what a waste of effort by JWs.
i have just reviewed the arc evidence given by this man.
it is pathetic.. i am now retired, but until then my professional life was spent in the legal arena.
toole fumbles his way through his answers, fails to understand the principle of 'instructions', and so much more.
I have just reviewed the ARC evidence given by this man. It is pathetic.
I am now retired, but until then my professional life was spent in the legal arena. Toole fumbles his way through his answers, fails to understand the principle of 'instructions', and so much more. The ARC can't fail to have picked up this sort of stuff.
Toole has proved himself to be a dickhead. That he was -apparently - senior legal counsel for WTBTS Australia can only make them a laughing-stock.
scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
This is a comment from a British citizen, a never-was JW, and someone who was a cop for 30+ years.
I swore an an oath when I was appointed. That gave me powers and responsibilities, for which I was personally liable. It made me liable to prosecution at Common Law for misconduct in my office. The powers were substantial.
I exercised my powers in accordance with the law. That changed from time to time. If at any time I had found that what the law required me to do was incompatible with my personal beliefs I could have resigned my appointment.
I have, I am afraid, no sympathy at all for this woman or her supporters. She has been found to be in contempt of court, has failed to purge her contempt, and has properly been punished for that contempt. In an organised society, where the courts are the guardians, there could be no other outcome. One complies with the law, or on suffers the penalty.
It is interesting to contemplate alternative scenarios. What if, for example, there was a US state, or county, where Islamic voters prevailed and it was legal for a man to have three (or more) wives? A county clerk (because of her religious beliefs) declined to issue marriage licences for the second and third marriages? If the majority democratic will of that state/county was otherwise, what would happen?
This is not a purely hypothetical question.
i've been looking again at the coverage of the arc examination of jw witnesses.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bonw67c9sew.
in particular, watch this again from 1h47m to the end.. i think i've made this point elsewhere, but you will rarely see this sort of thing happening in courts (maybe outside tv perry mason stuff).. in the context of british/aussie polite courtroom speak, the witness is accused of lying, his (the wt) lawyer is quick to disassociate himself from the lies, the lawyer offers a consultant's sick certificate, the judge tells him 'that won't help', and jackson is scheduled for the following week.. this doesn't happen very often and stripping away the polite courtroom speak is very revealing..
I've been looking again at the coverage of the ARC examination of JW witnesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BONW67c9SEw
In particular, watch this again from 1h47m to the end.
I think I've made this point elsewhere, but you will rarely see this sort of thing happening in courts (maybe outside TV Perry Mason stuff).
In the context of British/Aussie polite courtroom speak, the witness is accused of lying, his (the WT) lawyer is quick to disassociate himself from the lies, the lawyer offers a consultant's sick certificate, the judge tells him 'that won't help', and Jackson is scheduled for the following week.
This doesn't happen very often and stripping away the polite courtroom speak is very revealing.
from the november 2015 watchtower:.
what have archaeologists found that shows that jericho was captured in a short time?.
joshua 6:10-15, 20 says that the israelite soldiers marched around the city of jericho once a day for six days.
This is well worth watching in its entirety.
within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.
however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.
he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.
Please bear in mind that the point of the ARC was/is not to investigate JW theology, it is to put forward recommendations as to how abuse can be better dealt with. The questions about JW heirarchy and organisation were intended to identify, organisationally, whether and at what level change could be brought about.
Interesting that Jws giving evidence found the need to be so deceptive.
are you on the road to everlasting life?.
note to the speaker: help bible students and interested ones to understand why and how to make further spiritual progress..
emphasize the many sources of help available, and warmly encourage them to act without delay.
TOH
Well, you're entitled to your view and your comments.
are you on the road to everlasting life?.
note to the speaker: help bible students and interested ones to understand why and how to make further spiritual progress..
emphasize the many sources of help available, and warmly encourage them to act without delay.
"TO BE COVERED IN 30 MINUTES"
(I never was a JW)
This reminds me a bit of the time an elder called at my door and invited me to study his bible. (This must have been before I was officially labelled a dangerous apostate). 'I'd love to' I said. 'Which scholars have you studied?'. I mentioned a few (Bart Ehrman comes to mind). He mentioned a name (can't remember it now) and I asked him to write it down so that I could check out his preferred scholar's credentials. End of invitation to 'study the bible', end of conversation.
my sister said she heard several "mis truths" or dare we say, "lies" said by the brothers on the stand during the royal commission.. 1) vin toole lied when asked about the expression "theocratic warfare".
he said he was unaware of the term.
2) terry obrien lied when asked whether witnesses are free to research the organisation or free to leave without any negative consequences.. 3) geoff jackson lied when he said that the organisation doesn't run a 'police state' and doesn't criticise those who want to leave.
I've made this point somewhere else but the WT lawyer had to apologise to the judge and explain that he had no wish to mislead the enquiry. He explained that he was following the instructions he had been given by his client (WT) and that he personally had no wish to be deceptive.
For those of us familiar with courtroom speak, this was a very big deal indeed. It doesn't happen very often. In essence, the lawyer was saying to the court (hearing) that he had been deceived by the client (WT) and was distancing himself from it in an effort to preserve his professional integrity.
In my profession in the UK I was involved in many criminal trials. I can only recall a couple of occasions over many years when the lawyer for a defendant was put in this position.
It really is a huge thing, and I have no doubt that the ARC will take appropriate note.
